That was nice to read.
And thank you for the llama !^^

I'd put your document in my favorites. Just couldn't resist. Plus, I don't really feel offended by anything : it will help me more than insult me and I KNOW I have flaws. Damn, I'm sure I have some big Muse-Meme now in my stories, so I can still fix it with what you wrote in mind.
I know a "Super-Self-Insert", too, but I'm not naming anyone...

Well, who doesn't have fantasies ? It's just strange that everyone has the same stupid fetishes when we talk about Original Characters. Why is there so many clumsy-kawaii and tsundere-temperish manga wannabe ? I don't mind a girl clumsy or one with a temper, but seriously, it must be one of the most done shit ever. Like the emo or the Self-Insert BLAND (no, seriously, when I'm looking at some of those, I'm just seeing a "basic reaction", not something coming from one particular person... and it's worst when she barely does anything).

Oh God, seeing what you're saying, a Mary Sue is even WORSE than a mash up with all the characters above XD

No, I know if a character is just beautiful, it will not count as a Mary Sue (but some people are tagging some OCs "Sues" because of that... wut ?), but looking at your chart, I had the impression that it was one of the fact that makes a character obviously a MS.
Now again, I think you're right about the stereotypes, my bad. I thought because the characters-stereotypes didn't have much stuff than the MS, the authors could still do something with their psychology. They're overdone, but the Mary Sue has still less chance to get one pinch of real psychology because the "Mothers" concentrate too much on what she has physically and some of her traits (usually a mix between their own reactions, the P3 and D3, no ?). There's no subtility in a Mary Sue, so I was thinking that compared to her, the stereotypes still had a chance to evolve (without cancelling things about them like the MS, I mean) but yeah, it depends still of the author. Personally, I'm trying to avoid stereotypes or to go against stereotypes but maybe I'm wrong.
Well, I found many Mary Sues insulted like hell and people with strange characters (not fitting very well in the fandoms) simply ignored. But people envy them ? Huh... okay. That's just weird. They're jealous because the "Mother" has the idea before them or because the character stands more out than what they could've created ? I'm curious...

That's what I thought : too much abilities KILL the ability (of making a great character). That's quite annoying when a character is tagged as a MS by people because... it's a great fighter. Or if that character is stronger than some Cannon characters. Come on, who said it had to be a pussy in front of anyone because it's not part of the show/book/game ?

Well, it's hard to make a heartless murderer or a simple psycho fall in love with a made up character without driving with joy into the OOCness. But even a normal or even "naturally caring with people" character can turn OOC because "that's love at first sight" with the MS/Self-Insert/whatever. But that "love at first sight" just comes from nowhere ! They just meet and DANG, there's nothing else in their lives and goodbye the subtle. Make it slow, girls, the characters have to know each others if you want the relationship to have something deeper. Love at first sight exists, right... but this is just tiring.

Yeah, I found the "Anti-Sue" (in the stupid character, somehow) and the "Villain Sue" in your bigger rant. I guess the "Geniuse-Child-Sue" people talk sometimes about or forget just goes in the same categories as the others Sues so it doesn't need a rant : knows everything without any reasons and is incredibly powerful despite her young age.


(I know it's stupid as hell and I should know it since a while... but how do you write in "italic", "bold" or give links ?)

(I'm planning on making some rants and charts too (on different and same subjects when I'll buy what I need) and it's possible that I quote your name or some of your lines, does it bother you ?)